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K84 Kick Space Heater

SKU:K84

Brand: Beacon Morris

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Specs

BTU (Max): 10360
BTU (Min): 3370
BTU:
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3370-10360
Width (Inches): 19-1/4"
Height: 3-7/8"
Flow Rate:
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1-3GPM
Model: K84
Application: Heating
Depth (Inches): 12-3/4"
Type: Kickspace Heaters
Water Connection: 1/2"
Thread Size: 1/2"IDFitting

Description for Beacon Morris K84

Kickspace heaters are the space-saving alternative to hot water baseboard. Designed to fit inconspicuously under a cabinet, in the floor, on or in the wall, kickspace heaters are ideal for hard to heat areas such as foyers, kitchens, and bathrooms.
Hot water from the home's boiler is circulated through the kickspace unit and the fan gently blows heated air into the room. The homeowner simply selects the fan speed, then the unit turns on and off automatically according to heating demand.
Twin-Flo III + kickspace heaters are your ideal solution wherever space is limited:

  • Under Cabinets
  • In Kitchens, Baths, and Foyers
  • Under Stair Risers and Windows

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        Small and powerful. Super Quiet!

        Got this product because new kitchen cabinets did not allow for use of baseboard heating. This heater fits perfectly underneath my sink cabinet. Make sure you cut the floor panel and have access to...Read complete review

        Got this product because new kitchen cabinets did not allow for use of baseboard heating. This heater fits perfectly underneath my sink cabinet. Make sure you cut the floor panel and have access to it from the inside the cabinet to service if needed. Other than that, it so slim that it allowed me to leave the cut out floor right where it is making the storage underneath this cabinet available as designed during original kitchen build. Highly recommend, super quiet and packs a punch with over 9000 BTU if your hot water supply around 175+ F.

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        Good as a last resort

        The K84 unit will fit best in a cabinet that is 30" wide or larger. The face plate is a little flimsy, so be carefull not to place it where it might get...Read complete review

        The K84 unit will fit best in a cabinet that is 30" wide or larger. The face plate is a little flimsy, so be carefull not to place it where it might get kicked repeatedly. Make sure you are willing to cut out the bottom of the inside cabinet and install a false bottom or you will not be able to service the unit. This is especially true if you have to bleed the system for air.

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        5.0

        Best Price found

        By PEB

        from Marshfield, MA

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        Easy install if you buy the hose kit.
        Great directions for a professional install.

         
        5.0

        K84 Spacer heater

        By cmouse

        from Ronkonkoma NY

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        Comments about K84 Kick Space Heater:

        Replaced old ugly radiators in my kitchen just about to be installed looking to no more cold toes

         
        5.0

        k84 space kick heater

        By Dan

        from Pittsville WI

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              Talked with customer service to make sure that the kick heater would fit my existing cabinet, and size of piping for hook up would work,they checked reassured me, and all's good. Delivery was very timely took only a couple of days to my front door. always had great service

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              5.0

              Excellent Product

              By Chico

              from Syracuse, NY

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                    I used this product in my remodeled kitchen. There was not enough wall space for sufficient baseboard and this item solved the problem. Works great.

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                    5.0

                    "I would buy this product again and agai

                    By Amnun

                    from NY

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                          Very good!

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                          5.0

                          good heater

                          By oog

                          from heyworth ,il

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                                I have used a total of five of these over the years. just replaced the first one I used that was thirty years old. fan failure after only 30years.was single speed 8400 so I,m not complaining. best fan coils and best prices and service. THANKS

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                                4.0

                                more than adequate replacement

                                By howard

                                from randolph nj

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                                      Comments about K84 Kick Space Heater:

                                      i replaced two Beacon Morris K82 space heaters with their updated model K84. The new K84 was slightly wider than the old K82, but did not cause any installation problem for me. The new model is quieter and has the added benefit of dual speed levels which the old ones lacked. I am hoping that I will get the same 25 years of usage that I got from the old K82

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                                      5.0

                                      This product works as expected.

                                      By Brian

                                      from Lisbon, Ct.

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                                            I put this in my kitchen (14x20) and it performs great. The low speed on the fan switch is too low to provide enough heat, but the high speed does the job.
                                            The tubes that go into the heater did not go past the heater base, so I had to solder a smalll extension before I could put a 90 degree fitting to elbow down.

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                                            1.0

                                            Poor quality fans

                                            By Astro

                                            from Maine

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                                                  I installed two of these three years ago. Both fan motors went bad within the last two weeks. Looking back they probably started wearing out and slowing down in the second season of use. I can spin the fan blades freely but as soon as I turn on the motor they freeze up. So I guess I get to find out how beacon Morris deals with warranty claims....

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                                                  5.0

                                                  fast and easy

                                                  By retired moonlighter

                                                  from rockaway,nj

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                                                        Comments about K84 Kick Space Heater:

                                                        throws off the needed extra heat,installs easily esp with installation kit you should install a return line bleeder not included with the heater or install kit

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                                                          Q:

                                                          Will this unit work with an old gravity gas fired boiler/radiator system? If not, can it be adapted?
                                                          Asked on 6/25/2014 by Bob from Minneapolis, MN.

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                                                            In order for a unit like this to work with a gravity system, you typically would need to add a pump. The passages in the unit are far too small for you to get sufficient circulation without one. For these style heaters to work at capacity, they need two things, hot enough water (typically 160 F-190 F, although they will work at a reduced capacity down to 130 F) and a minimum of 1 gallon per minute flow. Most older gravity systems are operate at 140 F or hotter, so temperature shouldn't be a problem, but gravity flow typically won't push but a trickle through those little heaters.
                                                             
                                                            Adding a pump to the circuit can be tricky too as whenever you change the flow in one place in the circuit, it affects the flow every where else. If you do it right, it should work great. If you do it wrong, it not only may not work right, it may mess up the parts that do.
                                                             
                                                            If you add a central pump that changes your system from a gravity system to a pumped one, then you likely could tie in the new heater just like the existing radiators and boost the output of the entire system to boot (assuming the boiler isn't already at full output). But adding a central pump to a gravity system can require some serious pipe fitting since the pipes are all over-sized to start with. If you aren't used to working with them, you also likely won't have the right tools (big) or knowledge/techniques for altering that pipe. If you do, then count the cost before trying yourself.
                                                             
                                                            If you have an existing unit that is readily disconnected (and accurately represents the location where you want to use the heater), you could connect up some 1/2 copper tubing, say a 10' coil, and see whether you get any usable heat off of it when the system operates. Bear in mind, it'll get hot for sure, but if you set a fan next to it and have it blow room air across it, does it stay hot or cool down to the point of being slightly above room temperature. If it stays really hot, then ignore all the advice above and hook up your heater. If it cools down, then you'll see the problem.
                                                            I hope this has been helpful.
                                                             
                                                            Good luck!
                                                             
                                                             
                                                             

                                                            Answered on 6/26/2014 by Watcher from Oregon
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                                                            Bob,
                                                            You asked "Will this unit work with an old gravity gas fired
                                                            boiler/radiator system? If not, can it be adapted?".
                                                            humm... With a fair amount of creativity plumbing, maybe so.
                                                            These units are very restrictive (1/2" tubing) and are intended to use
                                                            with a "mono-tee". The mono-tee would siphon off part of the flow (to
                                                            the kick space heater) and reduce the restriction within the system.
                                                            However in a gravity feed system, the flow rate would be so slow that a
                                                            mono-tee would not work properly, and to place the device in series with
                                                            other radiators would shut down the over all flow.
                                                            Is there another way? Not easy. The only thing I can think of would be
                                                            to add a heating loop for the kick space heater with a return pump
                                                            (although, it is doubtful that the kick space heater would remove enough
                                                            heat to prolong the life of the return pump). Or you could upgrade your
                                                            boiler :)
                                                            Not knowing where your thinking of using this device, makes offering
                                                            alternative options difficult._IF_ you have access to the area from
                                                            below, you might think about installing finned copper pipe under the
                                                            floor of the area and using convection to heat the floor.
                                                            Larry

                                                            Answered on 6/26/2014 by Anonymous
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                                                            It will work if you have a hot water system with a circulator. Hot
                                                            water needs to flow thru the heater to work. This works on a 3/4" pipe
                                                            system. If you have no circulator, it will not work.

                                                            Answered on 6/26/2014 by Anonymous
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                                                            I'm not a plumber, just a handy homeowner, but I would say no. Your system doesn't have a circulator. I would not rely on gravity to push the water thru the coils. Also it might change the balance of your system since the system has larger size piping. Hope this helps.
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                                                            Answered on 6/26/2014 by Anonymous
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                                                            A:

                                                            For gravity fed hot water systems, it is recommended that a separate circulator pump
                                                            be installed for the kick space heater to achieve full performance.

                                                            Answered on 7/1/2014 by SupplyHouse Staff from NY
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                                                          Q:

                                                          Does the k84 come with 3/4" water outlets
                                                          Asked on 2/27/2014 by Kirk from Rochester NY

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                                                            It comes with 1/2" sweat piping connections.

                                                            Answered on 2/28/2014 by PexSupply Staff from NY
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                                                            No. The K84 comes with 1/2" copper inlet and outlet. You can solder on
                                                            any kind of fitting you want, so I suppose you could adapt it up to 3/4" if
                                                            you want to. I suppose you could use "shark bites" if you want to also.

                                                            Answered on 2/28/2014 by Jimmy from Connecticut
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                                                            No both input and output are 1/2" copper pipe

                                                            Answered on 2/27/2014 by Anonymous
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                                                            No.  1/2 inch. I used the red tubing for the shark bite. You can always use a reducer. I love the unit. 
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                                                            Answered on 2/27/2014 by Anonymous
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                                                            No, they are 1/2" copper pipe size, which measures 5/8" OD.
                                                            Good luck!
                                                             
                                                             

                                                            Answered on 2/27/2014 by Watcher from Oregon
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                                                            K84 heater connects to a 3/4" heating system. You must use special scoop tee.
                                                            Not all of the hot water goes thru the heater. Google the instructions
                                                            and you will see how the system is connected. I also put a valve in
                                                            parrallel with the heater in the 3/4" line, closed the valve when
                                                            filling heating system and when first starting circulator. This gets
                                                            all of the air out of heater. Then open valve and leave open after
                                                            first running system. Heater works great, puts out lots of heat. Good
                                                            for warming my wifes feet. Hope you like the heater.

                                                            Answered on 2/27/2014 by Anonymous
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                                                            No. The copper tubing is 1/2".

                                                            Answered on 2/27/2014 by Anonymous
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                                                          Q:

                                                          I want to install two K84 units (in floor kits) in a 3/4" series loop baseboard system. With only 1/2" piping in the units will they be too restrictive for series use?
                                                          Asked on 11/12/2013 by South Shore from michigan

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                                                            If these are the only two devices on the zone, then simply run the 3/4
                                                            feeder pipe between the two units used a 3/4 tee to split the flow into
                                                            the two units and then combine the outputs back into 3/4 as the return
                                                            to the boiler.
                                                            if you have a radiator or other devices in the zone, then you'll need to
                                                            use 3/4-3/4-1/2 monoflow diverter tee's, on the _output side_ of the
                                                            kick-space heaters. what these will do for you is to draw heated water
                                                            through the kick-space heater without obstructing the water flow.

                                                            Answered on 11/20/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                            My question is why would you series these units? In this configuration they will act like heat the heat exchangers they are, with the first cooling the water so that the second won't be as efficient, meaning it will only put out some percentage of heat the first unit does.
                                                            But to answer they question, yes it will obviously restrict, but what it too much? By running in series you are reducing the efficiency of the second unit so any restriction won't make that much difference. The only thing you might see is a slight increase in pressure at the pump but it shouldn't be a concern. It might even help given the longer retention time in the second unit, albeit most likely too small to measure.
                                                            You would be better off putting two 1/2" tee's in the 3/4 supply line to the inlet of each unit, with two 1/2" tee's in the return line from the outlet of each unit and running them parallel. With an area of about .44", the 3/4" line will easily carry enough for two 1/2" units at about .20" area each.

                                                            Answered on 11/17/2013 by T.D. Ball from Cody, Wyoming
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                                                            A:

                                                            I installed 4 of these in series in a 3/4 inch loop for a zone in 2 rooms. There were instructions on using split reducing tees (with a diverter built in) to keep the flow up to the heater with some flow through. I tried it but was not happy with the results. I redid the zone using 3/4 in gate valves just past where each 1/2 line reenters the zone. Worked perfectly and gives great control of the flow in the zone. I get great output from all 4 units

                                                            Answered on 11/13/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                            A:

                                                            I don't know if this helps, but my one unit is located at the end of a 30' run of cast iron baseboard and it works fine.

                                                            Answered on 11/12/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                            A:

                                                            nope

                                                            Answered on 11/12/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                            A:

                                                            No will restrict some but if thats all thats on the loop should not be anything significant.

                                                            Answered on 11/12/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                            It shouldn't be an issue. I installed two of these a couple years ago and
                                                            just two more this year into my single loop system. You'll need to get a
                                                            couple of 3/4" to 1/2" "through T's" (pictures and descriptions are in the
                                                            instructions that come with the unit). These are nonstandard plumbing
                                                            pieces. I went to a plumbing specialty shop for them to order them for
                                                            me. They are about $3-$5 each.

                                                            Answered on 11/12/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                            A:

                                                            I have one of these units in my bathroom under the vanity. I believe the plumber used a venturi tee off the 3/4 loop. This puts the 1/2 feed and return of the unit in parallel with the 3/4 loop. 3/4 X 1/2 X 3/4 Venturi tee. Hopes this helps........Drew

                                                            Answered on 11/12/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                            A:

                                                            In a series I'm assuming one heater will be feeding the other which will probably have the downstream heater not running as hot as the first.  As for a restriction I would guess that would have to do w/ the volume and pressure of your pump.  I'm not a HVAC technician but  I actually Tee'd off my K84 unit with a standard baseboard heater and used 1/4 turn shut off valves on each line to regulate which heater will get more flow.   My system was a standard 3/4" series loop and it works great. 

                                                            Answered on 11/12/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                            A:

                                                            You need to check how the heater is connected into your heating system, it
                                                            will help you understand what you are asking. Try searching the internet
                                                            for instructions. The heaters are not connected in series of the heating
                                                            loop. They connect across a section of pipe. There is non restriction to
                                                            the water flow if connected following the directions. The heaters work
                                                            great and put out lots of heat, there is a switch on the unit to turn them
                                                            off/low/high. That way you can set the fans for how warm the area needs to
                                                            be. I also placed a valve in the section of pipe in parallel with the
                                                            heater. I closed the valve after putting water in the system and started
                                                            the circulating pump, this removes all the air from the heater Than open
                                                            and leave open the valve for operation of your heating system. This is the
                                                            only way I could remove all air from the heater, the bleed valve on the
                                                            unit did not remove all the air and was air bound. Hope this helps.

                                                            Answered on 11/12/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                          Q:

                                                          Is it ok to install it below the kitchen sink cabinet or will it be too hot when someone is at the sink doing dishes? Also, this will be connected to an existing hot water system with mono flo tees located in the basement. Does the air bleed valve have to be installed right next to the unit or can it be installed in the basement?
                                                          Asked on 10/11/2013 by ivo from nj

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                                                            A:

                                                            Most of these I've installed or have seen installed have been under a kitchen (or bathroom) sink cabinet. As far as being too hot, if you mean for the equipment, no, it's what they are made for. If you mean for the person standing there doing dishes, maybe, depends on the person and the conditions. If you have cold feet, you'd probably like it. If you are the other way, you probably won't. The fan can be turned off from the front by using the selector switch "HI-OFF-LO", so if it were uncomfortable for a particular person or circumstance, it could be turned off. Or it could be installed off to one side if the cabinetry allows for that. The air temperature coming out can not be hotter than the water temperature of your system, so if it is set to 180F, that is the hottest air you could get out. In reality, it will be cooler than that by a fair amount.
                                                             
                                                            One potential issue using mono-flo tees, the blower on these heaters turn on and off by detecting the hot water running through the coil. If the flow is insufficient for the sensor to detect the heat, the blower won't come on even though the coil feels hot. If that is a problem, there are a couple of options. The first one (and good to check regardless) is to make certain the sensor is getting good contact on the coil, preferably on the copper pipe part. Putting a bit of insulation around the sensor and the pipe so the air around it doesn't cool it also helps. If that doesn't work, there are sensors available that will turn the blower on at a lower temperature. The sensor can take a few minutes to detect the heat in any case, so give it bit before deciding it isn't working, sometimes they're just slow.
                                                             
                                                            Regarding the air vent, it depends on what kind of vent. What I have found most successful and easiest to work with is to install a water purge valve on the return leg prior to the main line with an isolation valve between the heater and the main line. These are perfect for it.     http://www.pexsupply.com/Webstone-54612W-1-2-Sweat-x-IPS-Pro-Pal-Ball-Valve-w-Hose-Drain-Lead-Free   Make sure you get the version and size appropriate for your type of pipe and put the purge port on the heater side of the line.
                                                             
                                                            With the isolation valve closed, open the purge valve (making sure you are adding water to the system, otherwise you'll just drop the pressure) and let it run until all the air is out, with a hose to a drain or a bucket, then open the isolation valve and close the purge after the last bit of air is out. This has the advantage of being easy to confidently and quickly remove the air and it also can be installed anywhere in the circuit without compromising its effectiveness. If you are trying to use an actual air vent, it won't work very well if it is below the unit, you just can't get enough velocity through it to remove the air.
                                                            I hope this has been helpful. Good luck!
                                                             
                                                             
                                                             

                                                            Answered on 10/11/2013 by Watcher from Oregon
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                                                            A:

                                                            I have this heater. It is located right as you say: under the kitchen sink cabinet. It is very effective, relatively quiet (no one sleeps in the kitchen anyway). Feet feel nice warm air when I do dishes. Not hot. Well, I couldn't use it as an excuse not to do it when my wife asks me to. Sorry, I do not know what "mono flow" is, but I do not have any extra air eliminator a except one on the boiler.
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                                                            Answered on 10/11/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                            A:

                                                            It is not too hot if you were standing in front of it doing dishes.
                                                            However, you will feel it. Maybe that's good if you have cold feet. The
                                                            air bleed does not have to be right next to it. I also installed mine in
                                                            an existing hot water system. I just flushed the system and let it run
                                                            until all the air was out, maybe 3-4 minutes. I have no air in the
                                                            system. This heater is not completely silent, but it comfortably heats a
                                                            12 x 20 room and the low hush of air is not annoying. It's about the same
                                                            noise level as the refrigerator, maybe a bit less. I'm pretty pleased with
                                                            it.

                                                            Answered on 10/11/2013 by Jimmy from Connecticut
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                                                            A:

                                                            I think that it would be too warm immediately in front of the sink. I can't speak to the air bleeder valve location, but higher is always better, I think. My unit works great, by the way.

                                                            Answered on 10/11/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                            A:

                                                            this unit is perfect for under the sink or kitchen counters no heat is dissipated thru the housing so u don't have to worry about heating up the woodwork of the cabinet

                                                            Answered on 10/11/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                            A:

                                                            My wife likes to stand in front of the heater to warm her feet. For me it
                                                            would be to hot to stand in front of for a long time. There is a switch on
                                                            the front of the unit low/off/high, so you can shut the heater off when
                                                            standing in front of it. The heater works great and will warm the room
                                                            quickly. Bleed will work best next to unit but will work in basement. What
                                                            had to do was put a valve in pipe that is in parallel with heater, I closed
                                                            valve when starting system the first time to get rid of all on the air in
                                                            the heater. Than opened valve after s short time and than leave valve open
                                                            all the time. I could not remove air in the heater any other way.

                                                            Answered on 10/11/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                            A:

                                                            Hi
                                                            Well you can install a speed control switch in the kitchen if you find it too hot on the feet.
                                                            And the air vent should also be installed at the highest point whick would be next to the heater.
                                                            My opinions only, im no expert.
                                                            George

                                                            Answered on 10/11/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                          Q:

                                                          My garbage disposal let go and leaked onto the fan and the unit stopped working completely, can I just replace the fan motor or is there someway to test the unit to see if it needs a complete replacement? I realize it will need to be removed either way.
                                                          Asked on 10/2/2012 by Fred

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                                                            A:

                                                            I would say the parts can be replaced. If it was me I would buy new unit.

                                                            Answered on 10/2/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                            A:

                                                            Do yourself a favor and replace the entire unit. Once water gets into the electrical connections they begin to corrode. It’s also a good safety precaution. Remember, this thing is powered with 110vac. The last thing you want is arching.

                                                            Answered on 10/2/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                            Did you check the circuit breaker in the motor? If so, was it popped
                                                            and did you reset it?
                                                            If it was reset and still not running, then it's toast.
                                                            It's cheaper, easier and faster to replace the entire unit, than to have
                                                            the motor repaired.

                                                            Answered on 10/2/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                            The fan motor is the only 'real' electrical component inside beside the thermostat control.I would try to replace the motor first and make sure all other electrical components are dried off completely before turning it on.That may just do the trick (you can usually find those type of motors cheap at electronic stores)

                                                            Answered on 10/2/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                            A:

                                                            Please ignore my previous reply, I failed to down load the picture. Had
                                                            I done so I would have realized that that you were asking a question
                                                            about kick-space heater and not a disposal.
                                                            Sorry about that.
                                                            I took the cover off of one of mine, the motor looks replaceable and I
                                                            doubt the water would have damaged anything else, but they can all be
                                                            tested.
                                                            This type of induction motor is bullet proof, if fact I think could run
                                                            underwater.
                                                            Does the blower turn by hand? If it doesn't then I would guess that the
                                                            bearings have rusted up.
                                                            But, we should test the easy stuff first.
                                                            The thermo switch is normally open, easy to by-pass, in fact
                                                            you_must___do this to test the motor if you do not have 140 degree water
                                                            running through the unit.
                                                            The fan speed switch, again easy to test with an ohm meter.
                                                            Depending upon the length of time "things were wet", you also may want
                                                            to check the fan switch connections of corrosion.
                                                            If your this far into the steps above and the problem is not solved...
                                                            It's time to pull the motor.
                                                            It appears that you can remove the motor/blower assembly by unscrewing
                                                            the wing nuts located below and in front blower.
                                                            Once you have the motor removed, separate the blower center shaft from
                                                            the motor then find out which item isn't turning.
                                                            Replacement parts are available for this but you may have to go to a
                                                            complete motor/blower assembly.
                                                            Good Luck.

                                                            Answered on 10/2/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                            A:

                                                            Check thermostat first on unit ,than check power
                                                            should be ok

                                                            Answered on 10/2/2012 by Anonymous
                                                          • CUSTOMER CARE

                                                            A:

                                                            The replacement motor for this unit is part BMKR02020-002.

                                                            Answered on 10/5/2012 by PexSupply Staff from NY
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                                                            A:

                                                            First thing I would do is check the electrical circuit the motor is wired to and make sure it did not trip the circuit breaker or blow the fuse. If this checks good then I would turn off power to motor and clean it with electric motor cleaner and check to see if the fan will turn freely. After the motor cleaner dries turn the power to the the motor and see if it runs. If not,you could take the motor to a motor repair shop and have them check it and if it is bad see if they can get you a replacement.
                                                            Good Luck

                                                            Answered on 10/11/2012 by Anonymous
                                                        • K84 Kick Space Heater

                                                          Q:

                                                          Do I also need to buy Kick Space Heater Hose Kit when I buy K42 or K84?
                                                          Asked on 3/26/2012 by Dennis

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                                                            A:

                                                            I didn't buy anything but ths in my purchase. You just solder the
                                                            1/2" copper line directly to the radiator in the unit just like any other
                                                            radiator install. Hope this helps.

                                                            Answered on 3/26/2012 by Another PexSupply Customer
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                                                            A:

                                                            I would recommend buying the hose kit, then you can pull the unit out for
                                                            cleaning. It also aids in the installation .

                                                            Answered on 3/26/2012 by Another PexSupply Customer
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                                                            A:

                                                            You don't need to buy the hose but it doesn't hurt depending on how you
                                                            mount it. I used it so I could easily detach the kickspace if I space if I
                                                            ever needed to. Otherwise if you sweat 1/2" copper all the way to the unit
                                                            you have to cut the pipe to remove. I also like that is serves as another
                                                            shock/vibration isolation ism.

                                                            Answered on 3/26/2012 by Another PexSupply Customer
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                                                            A:

                                                            Not necessarily. The hose kit is an optional item that allows you to make your connections using flexible hose as opposed to hard copper or PEX connections. Depending on your installation (how much room or access you have) the kit can make it easier to install the heater. My company has installed a fair number without the hose kit, but at least a couple would have been easier with it (if we'd known about it at the time). If the piping connections are difficult to access when the heater is in position, having flexible connections can allow you to connect to the piping first, then to the heater and then put the heater into place. Also, if the heater is accessible now but won't be later (it's being installed and a cabinet then installed over it) the hose kit can make any servicing required later a lot easier. If the unit is going into the toe kick of a cabinet and an access panel can be in the bottom of it large enough to expose everything, then the kit shouldn't be needed. But if the access can only expose the heater itself and not the piping, the hose is pretty handy.
                                                            Ultimately, it really depends on the details of your installation. The unit will work with or without it and you have to decide whether your specific installation will be better one way or the other.
                                                            One other thing, if you are tying this to an existing radiant circuit that uses diverter tees (sometimes called monoflo tees among other things) make sure you have a vent or purge fitting on the heater. If not, your heater may very well end up air-locked and won't circulate. If it's on its own pipe circuit or in a series circuit, that's probably not going to be a problem.
                                                            Good luck!

                                                            Answered on 3/26/2012 by Another PexSupply Customer
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                                                            A:

                                                            I have installed a couple of these using copper fittings and tubing. A hose kit might be easier but either way will work.

                                                            Answered on 3/26/2012 by Another PexSupply Customer
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                                                            A:

                                                            Yes, the hose kit makes installation much easier. If you don't buy the
                                                            hose kit you will have to shop elsewhere for the hose and fittings.

                                                            Answered on 3/26/2012 by Another PexSupply Customer
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                                                            A:

                                                            You don't always need that, it depends on your installation type. If you
                                                            sweat both inlet and outlet to your main hot water loop directly with hard
                                                            copper, you won't need it at all. However, if the hard copper
                                                            connecting pipes you use are long straight runs, expansion/contraction
                                                            might be an issue. The hose allows you some fexibility. You can buy the
                                                            hose kit or buy the same fittings and some hose at a plumbing supply store
                                                            or home center for a little less cost. I had some good high temp. hose
                                                            so I bought the four hose-to-pipe fittings at Lowes, sweated them on and
                                                            used hose clamps. That basically mimics the kit and works fine. Using
                                                            hose allows a slightly easier removal if I ever have to replace it. The
                                                            kit is probably not a bad way to go.
                                                            You will see that you need a restrictor of some kind in the main loop to
                                                            deflect some of the hot water from the main loop into the kick-space
                                                            heater. I couldn't find the fitting they described so I used a ball valve
                                                            that I keep half open and everything works fine. Good luck. Mine has been
                                                            runing for two winters with no issues.

                                                            Answered on 3/27/2012 by Another PexSupply Customer
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                                                            A:

                                                            You can either buy the hose kit or pipe directly to the heater.

                                                            Answered on 3/27/2012 by Another PexSupply Customer
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                                                            A:

                                                            You do not have to buy the Hose Kit. I f you have the room to work and sweat the copper, you can run all the way. If you do not have the space to work, then I would recommend the Hose Kit.
                                                            "Do I also need to buy Kick Space Heater Hose Kit when I buy K42 or K84?"

                                                            Answered on 3/27/2012 by Another PexSupply Customer
                                                        • K84 Kick Space Heater

                                                          Q:

                                                          Can these units be used with potable water? I would like to put it on the return line of my potable recirculation loop for supplemental heat in a bathroom.
                                                          Asked on 3/2/2012 by Anonymous

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                                                            A:

                                                            Beacon Morris Twin-Flo III Heaters should be connected only to circulating hot water systems where at least 1 gpm water flow is expected. They will work on one or two pipe systems, or in a series loop where pressure and temperature drop can be tolerated (see the installation manual for further details).

                                                            Answered on 3/29/2012 by PexSupply Staff from NY
                                                        • K84 Kick Space Heater

                                                          Q:

                                                          MY KITCHEN IS 11' X 19' AND WELL INSULATED WITH AN OPEN WALL TO THE DINING ROOM. WHAT SIZE UNIT SHOULD I USE?
                                                          Asked on 1/29/2012 by Anonymous from DANBURY, CT

                                                          2 answers

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                                                            A:

                                                            A K42 may be sufficient depending on the amount of heat coming from the dining room and your water temperatures, but a K84 would likely be the safer choice. Keep in mind also that kitchen appliances give off heat.

                                                            Answered on 1/30/2012 by PexSupply Staff from NY
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                                                            A:

                                                            I'm not a professional, but I think that the 84 would be plenty, maybe too much. I was told that the 84 was like adding 30' of baseboard.

                                                            Answered on 1/30/2012 by Dan from Jackson, Mi
                                                        • K84 Kick Space Heater

                                                          Q:

                                                          Looking for a replacement blower and motor for the twin flow III K-84 "01" vintage.

                                                          Thanks
                                                          Dennis
                                                          Asked on 11/16/2011 by Anonymous from Billings, MT

                                                          1 answer

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                                                            A:

                                                            The replacement blower motor assembly is BMKR02020-002.

                                                            Answered on 11/16/2011 by PexSupply Staff from NY
                                                        • K84 Kick Space Heater

                                                          Q:

                                                          When installed under a Kitchen Cabinet can you tell me how warm the inside of the cabinet would get. We are concerned about storing food if the temperature gets to hot.
                                                          Asked on 10/13/2011 by Nick from Ivyland, pa

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                                                            A:

                                                            This would depend on the temperature of the water being fed to the unit.

                                                            Answered on 10/14/2011 by PexSupply Staff from NY
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