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Wirsbo Joist Trak, 1/2" Heat Transfer Panel

SKU:A5080500

Brand: Uponor (Wirsbo)

Uponor (Wirsbo)
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Application: 1/2" PEX
Tubing Compatibility: 1/2" Wirsbo hePEX
Height: .675"
Diameter:
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0.640" (Internal Channel)
Wall Thickness: .050"
Width: 4"
Material: Aluminum
Length (Inches): 48"

Description for Uponor (Wirsbo) A5080500

To find out the parts and quantities you will need for your application, use our easy, quick and convenient Joist Trak Calculator located in the Calculators tab above.

Use Wirsbo Joist Trak, extruded aluminum heat transfer panels, with Wirsbo 3/8" or 1/2" AQUAPEX or hePEX plus in floor joist applications. Each panel is 4 feet long by 3.5 inches wide, and comes packaged 20 per box. It provides easy installation, increased heat transfer and superior comfort.

Wirsbo Joist Trak, 1/2" Heat Transfer Panel

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        Thicker heat transfer panels

        8 years ago I installed a radiant heat system with 1/2" PEX in very thin 6" wide heat panels. I have read that thicker panels distribute more heat.
        I...Read complete review

        8 years ago I installed a radiant heat system with 1/2" PEX in very thin 6" wide heat panels. I have read that thicker panels distribute more heat.
        I replaced the thin panels at the perimeter with the Wirsbo Joist Traks. The Joist Trak has 10 screw holes, assuring firm contact with the surface.
        Installation was easy. The PEX was hot, so installing into the Trak required forcing the PEX into the channel--I used a rounded ball peen hammer so as not to nick the PEX. This worked well.
        These are installed into the basement ceiling joists. I then used reflective insulating foil and/or heavy duty aluminum foil, then 6" of fiberglas insulation--If you dont insulate, the basememt will get very hot! Fiberglas insulation is flammable, so I also have installed 1/2" lightweight drywall between the joist--also makes the basement look better.
        I have not good way to tell if the heating is better, as at the same time I also upgraded insulating various cracks and gaps with urethane foam.
        However, I love the warm floor.

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        Not a finished product

        This product is not finished. You cannot install it right out of the box. When the extrusions are cut at the factory, they are left sharp. These sharp edges dig in to pex...Read complete review

        This product is not finished. You cannot install it right out of the box. When the extrusions are cut at the factory, they are left sharp. These sharp edges dig in to pex pipe after a year or so and can ultimately shorten the life of the pipe. If you are an installer, plan on extra time to polish the ends of the plates before installation. There aren't many alternatives to these plates, and otherwise I find them just fine. What I would *LIKE* is for uphonor to polish the ends AND have screws hot glued to the extrusion so I can just put the plates up to the subfloor and drive the screws home. THEN and only then would you truly have a product you can install right out of the box. 2 stars.

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        4.0

        spendy but works good.

        By ERIC

        from MN

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              They definitely get you with the cost but aside from the heat distribution properties, they make installation of the tube easy.

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              5.0

              perfect product for existing floor

              By pawel

              from great neck, NY

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                    Comments about Wirsbo Joist Trak, 3/8" Heat Transfer Panel:

                    the joist trak are easy to use, make sure to leave space between traks, the mounting holes is a little to small and can be one reason for noisy operation, you should make the holes slightly bigger,

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                    4.0

                    Good basic product, easily improved

                    By DIY henhouse

                    from Oella, MD

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                          Comments about Wirsbo Joist Trak, 1/2" Heat Transfer Panel:

                          Installing these under a new bathroom sub-floor. In this application, heat conduction into the floor above is everything. I found the holes in the Joist-Trak to be be too small, and too few, so I drilled out the existing holes to accommodate a #10 screw, and added hole pairs between the pairs of factory holes, a bit closer to the tube channel. This should increase the conduction into the floor, and improve overall effectiveness and efficiency. I will follow up with 10" of AirKrete cementitious foam insulation to make sure all the heat goes up into the floor, not down into the room below.

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                          4.0

                          Surprise

                          By LeakFinder

                          from New Windsor, NY

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                                Comments about Wirsbo Joist Trak, 1/2" Heat Transfer Panel:

                                It was a real surprise how efficient the heat transfer panel is. It is a great product!
                                The only observation is that the holes had to be drilled with wider holes to use regular screws.

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                                4.0

                                Nice

                                By Joseph Schmoe

                                from Maine

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                                      Comments about Wirsbo Joist Trak, 1/2" Heat Transfer Panel:

                                      Just installed about 250 of these for use with Pex-Al-Pex. I used 5/8-in #4 screws to secure to 3/4-in Adventech subfloor. The tubing snaps in easily with a mallet and stays snugly in place. Cut ends are a little sharp, but easily fixed with a quick swipe of a Dremel grinding wheel or even a hand file. Also, by far best price I could find anywhere for this type of product.

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                                      4.0

                                      works great

                                      By kb

                                      from Saint Paul, MN

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                                            Comments about Wirsbo Joist Trak, 1/2" Heat Transfer Panel:

                                            Easy to use. Can pre-insert some #6 screws, hold it to the subfloor, and attach.

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                                            4.0

                                            Thicker heat transfer panels

                                            By Handyman Larry

                                            from York, PA

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                                                  Comments about Wirsbo Joist Trak, 1/2" Heat Transfer Panel:

                                                  8 years ago I installed a radiant heat system with 1/2" PEX in very thin 6" wide heat panels. I have read that thicker panels distribute more heat.
                                                  I replaced the thin panels at the perimeter with the Wirsbo Joist Traks. The Joist Trak has 10 screw holes, assuring firm contact with the surface.
                                                  Installation was easy. The PEX was hot, so installing into the Trak required forcing the PEX into the channel--I used a rounded ball peen hammer so as not to nick the PEX. This worked well.
                                                  These are installed into the basement ceiling joists. I then used reflective insulating foil and/or heavy duty aluminum foil, then 6" of fiberglas insulation--If you dont insulate, the basememt will get very hot! Fiberglas insulation is flammable, so I also have installed 1/2" lightweight drywall between the joist--also makes the basement look better.
                                                  I have not good way to tell if the heating is better, as at the same time I also upgraded insulating various cracks and gaps with urethane foam.
                                                  However, I love the warm floor.

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                                                  5.0

                                                  Great product

                                                  By Lescor

                                                  from Los Gatos, ca

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                                                        Comments about Wirsbo Joist Trak, 1/2" Heat Transfer Panel:

                                                        Used for radiant floor heating .. a beautifully fabricated product. High quality. Easy to install. Pex tubing pops right into the "omega" groove .. and holds tightly.
                                                        A true value. I was not bothered by the edge roughness that required light sanding.
                                                        Worth the time.

                                                        I was surprised how good the product was for the money

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                                                        4.0

                                                        Easy to use

                                                        By NathanVt

                                                        from Jericho, Vt

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                                                              Comments about Wirsbo Joist Trak, 1/2" Heat Transfer Panel:

                                                              Used the Joist Trak for the better insulated area of my house with good success thus far. Easy to install with a couple of 3/4" #6 screws, I know they recommend #8. Cut the aluminum with my circular saw, not a clean cut, but a file cleaned up the edges well.

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                                                              5.0

                                                              Great product

                                                              By JC

                                                              from Waterville, VT

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                                                                    Comments about Wirsbo Joist Trak, 1/2" Heat Transfer Panel:

                                                                    Great design , easy to install. I'll comment again when install is complete.

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                                                                      I have an old house (built in 1874) and would like to install the track system in my basement to heat the 1st floor above. My joist are @ 2' centers which leaves me with approx. 21" to 23" in the cavity. The floor above is 1" eastern hemlock planks used as sub-floor with 3/4" hard wood (maple) finished floor. My question is what size trak system do I use (1/2" or 3/8"), how many run per cavity and at what spacing?
                                                                      Asked on 1/27/2014 by cabby from upstate (almost canada), NY

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                                                                        I think you would do best with 1/2". 2 tracks per bay should be adequate, space evenly based upon joist width. Be sure the water temp is not too high so as to not affect/excessively shrink the floor and subfloor.

                                                                        Answered on 1/29/2014 by Anonymous
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                                                                        I would use 3/8" trak system with three runs in each cavity. I would not recommend 1/2", as the spacing is to close together. Hope this helps!

                                                                        Answered on 1/27/2014 by Anonymous
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                                                                        The 1" of sub-floor plus the flooring will get heated but it will be a slow process. All retro fits face similar issues. Many floors (maybe most) have a 5/8" sub-floor with a 3/4" finish floor plus carpet and underlayment in places.
                                                                        The 1/2" should be OK as long as you insulate underneath- Tek-Foil double bubble works great. Just don't expect the floor to warm up quickly. Possibly 3-5 hours.
                                                                        I use radiant PLUS conventional heating hot water baseboard. The floor is warm but not uncomfortable. Too many people try to heat the room with floor heat alone and it can be very uncomfortable. The floor temp should not exceed 100° F. I prefer 90° myself.
                                                                        If you have other questions email me-
                                                                        Good luck!

                                                                        Answered on 1/27/2014 by WindwoodTrader from Upstate NY
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                                                                        I built a log home in the Laramie valley in Wyoming and my floor is rough cut 2X12 joist with ¾" plywood over I" OSB with an engineered hard wood finish board. I put in ½" pex barrier tubing equally spaced between each joist and placed them in 4" aluminum diffusers. This has provided good heat diffusion and seems to have been adequate for normal temps withy one caveat, when the temperature got below -250 F last month and the wind was steady at 30mph gusting to ? (a lot more) we needed to keep the wood stove stoked to keep the house warm. Just an aside the aluminum diffusers are much more efficient than the formed tin or aluminum that I used in the bedrooms but we keep the heat very low in the bedrooms anyway.
                                                                        Charlie

                                                                        Answered on 1/27/2014 by Charlie from Harmony (Laramie) Wyoming
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                                                                      I would like to install these panels with a collated screw gun. I have a 3/4" subfloor and 3/4" hardwood flooring above. Anyone have luck finding a screw gun that will feed the #8 screws recommended? I would like to keep the screw length under 3/4" to avoid screwing into my hardwood flooring.
                                                                      Asked on 1/9/2014 by bob from Madison, WI

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                                                                        I used #8 panhead style screws 1/2" in length. If you are using a collated screw gun I think these would be wood screws and they might not be the best for this job. Attaching the joist trak goes quickly and a screw gun with collated screws probably won't save you much time anyway.
                                                                        Good luck.

                                                                        Answered on 1/10/2014 by Anonymous
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                                                                        I put in 4000 ft in my house .I used cradles dewalt screws gun 18 volt it did a nice job i used sheet metal screws 6x3/4 . to hold the pex i used old dry wall bucket screwed to 2' x2' plywood.5 thick with rope drilled threw the middle with swivel on it .i did by my self .

                                                                        Answered on 1/9/2014 by Anonymous
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                                                                      Can I use PEX AL PEX with the Wirsbo Joist Trak?
                                                                      Asked on 11/13/2013 by Phranck from Northern Maine

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                                                                        I installed 1/2" Rifeng Pex-Al-Pex in the Wirsbo 1/2" Joist Trak in my own home last fall. This winter (exceedingly cold) was a good test for the new system. I kept my cast iron rads in place but didn't need to turn them on. I am pleased with the pex-al-pex and joist trak set-up.

                                                                        Answered on 7/20/2014 by Rayturd from Pittsburgh, PA
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                                                                        The manufacturer does not recommend using pex-al-pex with Joist Trak as it differs in size.

                                                                        Answered on 11/15/2013 by PexSupply Staff from NY
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                                                                      Would it be possible to use copper pipe inplace of Pex?
                                                                      Asked on 10/21/2013 by Chuck

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                                                                        Yes that's what I did it snaps in place and works fine .

                                                                        Answered on 10/27/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                        Uponor does not recommend it. It may damage or not fit in the track, and noise issues due to thermal expansion may occur.

                                                                        Answered on 10/22/2013 by PexSupply Staff from NY
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                                                                        I don't think so.....Pex pipe can be worked easily into the Wirsbo Joist Trak.....I don't think copper pipe will work easily into the Joist Trak. More importantly, when you get to the end of each joist run and are turning to come back in the opposite direction along the adjacent joist you will have significant cutting and soldering with copper. The Pex is handy because you just make the turn and head back in the opposite direction with no measuring, cutting and soldering. Once the Joist Trak is in place and the holes for the pipe are drilled in the joists, it takes no time to run the Pex pipe. There are less pipe joints to be concerned with also.....stick with Pex pipe!

                                                                        Answered on 10/22/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                      What is the heat transfer benefit of using the joist trak vs the clip system within the joist space ? Is there an efficiency gain for each foot of tubing or does this just improve the speed at which the floor heats up ? Once the floor is up to temp is there an advantage ?
                                                                      Asked on 9/9/2013 by Renovating Guy from Alberta, Canada

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                                                                        Fellow shopper:
                                                                        The joist track holds a 2 foot length of pipe, increasing heat transfer through contact. The aluminum plate. Then spreads that heat over a greater surface area. That, plus ease of installation definitely make this product worthwhile as opposed to just tacking it up. Hope that helps.
                                                                        Gary
                                                                        Urban Design & Construction Ltd. (mobile office)

                                                                        Answered on 9/11/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                        Heat transfer is expressed as thermal conductivity or how easily energy can move from hot to cold. Air has very low conductivity; think about a down duvet. While aluminum has very high conductivity; think about a flag pole in the winter. So surround a hot plastic pipe with air and not much heat will move from the water to the surrounding materials (e.g. wood subfloor).
                                                                        In theory, aluminum heat spreaders will lower the overall energy requirements to heat a room to a set temperature. And yes, this should speed up the time to heat the room.
                                                                        Also, with the increased mass, you have a "heat sink" which will retain the heat longer, maintaining more consistent temperatures. So there is a benefit when the system is off too.
                                                                        In practice, ‎the floor will have less cold spots where airflow below the subfloor and joist runs reduce the heat transfer.
                                                                        Most importantly, do not skip joist cavities - one narrow run is better than none. And keep the end cavities well insulated and air tight (especially around vents).
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                                                                        Answered on 9/11/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                        The purpose of the extruded aluminum heat plates is lateral heat
                                                                        transfer. The thin plates or just hanging the tubing with no plates
                                                                        will cause hot spots in the floor as the heat rises and creates a hot
                                                                        spot directly above it. Wood does not radiate the heat across the
                                                                        surface; it only passes it through. The extruded aluminum creates a
                                                                        wide area that radiates heat more evenly over the surface of the floor.

                                                                        Answered on 9/9/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                      I have 3 layers of flooring 1 layer of 1 * 4" . 1 layer of 3/4" osb and 1 layer of hardwood flooring will the heat till transfer.
                                                                      Asked on 7/16/2013 by Mj from Queens, ny

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                                                                        The floor will become warm. It may take more time to bring the room up to initial temp in the morning if you turn it down at night. But heat rises so it will heat up.

                                                                        Answered on 7/16/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                        I have 1”x4”, 2 layers of ¾” cabinet grade ply and then ceramic tile
                                                                        (kitchen). I am running my floor hot 80-90C, which I am told may dry out
                                                                        the wood. I don’t know if they mean the underlayment or hardwood floors.
                                                                        It is difficult to separate the two systems one running baseboard and the
                                                                        other radiant with using a heat exchanger. Using radiant, the flow should
                                                                        be running most of the time at a lower temp. Mine is hot because it’s
                                                                        running along with the rest of the baseboards. To answer your question, yes
                                                                        the heat gets through. Now the wife wants radiant in the bathrooms as well!
                                                                        Bob

                                                                        Answered on 7/16/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                        Yes I have 3/4 pine boards with 3/4" maple tongue and groove over that and have no problems. Just make sure you put enough insulation below it!
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                                                                        Answered on 7/16/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                        Heat will still transfer but the thicker the floor the longer your response time will be, and you probably have to increase your water temperature to get the heating performance you need.
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                                                                        Answered on 7/16/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                        Wood is a excellent heat transfer material the only thing is it will take longer to get 2 temp but it will stay warm longer due to heat transfer properties
                                                                        John

                                                                        Answered on 7/17/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                        Eventually. Forget about setbacks for off-peak and forget about low temp
                                                                        water. You'll lose most of the advantages of the radiant floor setup. But
                                                                        some of the heat will transfer, though most will go to where the insulation
                                                                        values are lowest, which could be down in this case.. i.e. heat flows to
                                                                        cold, not just up. Your efficiencies are approaching radiant ceilings and
                                                                        you may want to consider that instead.

                                                                        Answered on 7/16/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                      Should these panels be used under a tile floor? I though I read somewhere that when installing pex in the floor joists not to use heat transfer panels under a tile floor such as in bathrooms or kitchens.
                                                                      So are these needed, never used, or will help?
                                                                      Thanks
                                                                      Asked on 6/8/2013 by Ed from Maine

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                                                                        I have used this item under my tiled bathroom for 5 years with no problem.  My wife loves the warm floors so we run the system all year long.

                                                                        Answered on 6/8/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                        I used these in under my bathroom floor, and they worked well. My floor is 3/4 plywood on floor joists, then cement board, and then ceramic tile. I thought I'd insulate after installing the tube, but the plates seem to push the heat into the floor just fine without insulation. There are a few spots where I just have the PEX without the plates, and the heat difference is obvious. I will use these plates if I install more floor heat.
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                                                                        Answered on 6/8/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                        The only place I've ever heard of not putting radiant floor heat is under heavy carpeting. The carpet acts as an insulator and blocks the heat. I use these under a granite tile floor in one bathroom and under a porcelain tile floor in the other bathroom. Both are tile over ½ cement board over tongue and groove subfloor. I have no problems with either location. The heat is even and the tile floor is nice and warm in the winter.

                                                                        Answered on 6/10/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                        While I think it would be best to install a subfloor with the tracks built into the base just below the tile, I did use these in my kitchen that was already finished with a tile floor. I just put them between the joists in the basement.

                                                                        Answered on 6/10/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                        I have installed these panels under all of my flooring, tile and wood. The heat is constant and has caused me no problems at all.

                                                                        Answered on 6/10/2013 by Anonymous
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                                                                        Joist Trak panels are great for under-subfloor installations because they distribute heat evenly across the floor surface, which is not possible when tubing is stapled directly to the subfloor without any heat transfer plates. There is no problem with using Joist Trak panels below finished tile flooring, although you may have the option to embed the tubing directly in the mud in such installations.

                                                                        Answered on 6/28/2013 by PexSupply Staff from NY
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                                                                      Can this product be used on a ceiling mounting format
                                                                      Asked on 10/17/2012 by Craig from Salt Lake City, Utah

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                                                                        They do mount to the ceiling and heat the subfloor of the floor above.
                                                                        Do not try and use these in a ceiling and try and heat the room below the ceiling. Heat won't fall.

                                                                        Answered on 10/17/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                                        If by ceiling mounting you mean under the upper floor to transfer the heat
                                                                        to the floor above it then yes. The plates are made to transfer or radiate
                                                                        the heat across the heated floor. Make sure to leave a gap between plates to
                                                                        compensate for the expansion and also make sure the ends are deburred.

                                                                        Answered on 10/18/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                                        I have my install in the floor joists. Heat rises, whatever is above the ceiling will get heated than what is below. If a radiant barrier and other insulating materials are used it will be better.
                                                                        I have seen electric heat panels installed in a ceiling so I guess it can be done.

                                                                        Answered on 10/18/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                                        If by ceiling you mean where the beams are exposed and contact can be made with the underlayment of the floor above then yes. If you are trying to heat the floor above by installing on an insulated or drywalled ceiling then no. Depends on what you are trying to do... could you use it to heat a room from the ceiling? I would not... heat rises and would pool in the 2-3 feet near the ceiling.

                                                                        Answered on 10/18/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                                        Joist Trak panels are most commonly used in floor heating applications, but they can be installed in walls or ceilings as well. For wall and ceiling applications, make sure to provide 5/8" thick filler boards between the channels of the Trak panels (5/8" sheetrock is commonly used).

                                                                        Answered on 10/26/2012 by PexSupply Staff from NY
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                                                                      Can 5/8 PEX be used in this 1/2" track? I imagine it would be snug but could still work, correct?
                                                                      Asked on 10/10/2012 by dlc from Beverly, MA

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                                                                        No wont work.

                                                                        Answered on 10/11/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                                        I would say no, it would not work. The 1/2" is already a snug fit.

                                                                        Answered on 10/11/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                                        No

                                                                        Answered on 10/11/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                                        1/2 inch pex has a 5/8 dia OD. If 5/8 pex has a 3/4 dia OD you could probably force it in because the fins would flex but I don't know if it would be as efficient as having as much surface contact with the pipe.

                                                                        Answered on 10/12/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                                        We wouldn't recommend it. The 1/2" panels are designed to fit tightly around 1/2" PEX.

                                                                        Answered on 10/23/2012 by PexSupply Staff from NY
                                                                    • Wirsbo Joist Trak, 1/2" Heat Transfer Panel

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                                                                      I installed the 1/2" heat transfer panels between the basement joists. I do get heat above on the 1st floor. I never put any type of insulation into the joists housing the transfer panels. The basement area below the transfer plates actually get too warm. Would it be beneficial to add insulation into the joist cavaties? If yes, can I use either foam or batts?
                                                                      Asked on 10/9/2012 by Steve from Milwaukee WI

                                                                      8 answers

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                                                                        A:

                                                                        I didn't have that problem because my basement is finished so the heat is kept above the dropped ceiling tiles but I would recommend some insulation.
                                                                        I would use either blue styrofoam or Kraft faced insulating bats but I would leave at least a few inches between the insulation and the tubing.
                                                                        Bud Bauer
                                                                        Baseline Contracting

                                                                        Answered on 10/9/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                                        A:

                                                                        I put in finer glass batts for my setup because my garage was getting a lot of heat.

                                                                        Answered on 10/9/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                                        What I did was staple up a cloth and then blew in dense packed cellulose between the joists. I finished the ceiling by screwing up 2" of foil faced polyiso foam board. You probably don't need the foam board.

                                                                        Answered on 10/9/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                                        You should absolutely insulate between the joists. I used a combination of the foil bubble wrap type of insulation 3-4 inches under the pex. Then normal faced insulation rolls to fill out the remaining area. This in my mind is mandatory. The difference in heat below and above the pex is dramatic. To insulate an air gap near the pex keeps the heat against the joists and floor. Once I did this my heat cycles on average twice a day and each heat cycle keeps the house warm for 3-4 hours. Without the insulation I would guess that the pex is 70% less effective. Lastly the heat transfer plates are a must. They have a similar effectiveness impact on heat transfer and retention.

                                                                        Answered on 10/9/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                                        A:

                                                                        Yes, you can insulate between the joists to help solve this. The best
                                                                        product to use is insulating foam panels with foil reflective coating on one
                                                                        side. Put the foil side up towards the tubing and transfer panels. Using
                                                                        this will both insulate, and reflect the heat up towards the room above
                                                                        where you need it.
                                                                        The panels are usually sold in 8ft by 4ft sheets. Just cut them to your
                                                                        joist spacing and install In the space, leaving a small air gap of an inch
                                                                        or 2.

                                                                        Answered on 10/9/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                                        I had the same problem. I ended up putting in batt insulation and I also
                                                                        had some bubblefoil wrap that I used and stapled to the
                                                                        joists...overkill!!! But it made a huge difference

                                                                        Answered on 10/10/2012 by Anonymous
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                                                                        A:

                                                                        I installed radiant foil insulation in the joists and closed the ends with fiberglass insulation. Made a huge difference.

                                                                        Answered on 10/10/2012 by Anonymous
                                                                      • CUSTOMER CARE

                                                                        A:

                                                                        We would always recommend installing insulation beneath the panels. You would be best off putting insulation with an R-value of 19 or higher directly against the Joist Trak.

                                                                        Answered on 10/23/2012 by PexSupply Staff from NY
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